Talk:TVR Sagaris/@comment-68.7.151.43-20170923021848/@comment-27736210-20170923061945

No. I wouldn't say the Sagaris commonly beats the Camaro SS at all.

I sometimes get beaten by Camaro SS' when using the Cobra at rank 1245, with the Camaro SS at rank 1300-1330. If they are only 3-5 km/h faster and can beat me occasionally, what do you think will happen with the Sagaris possessing a 30 km/h slower top speed?

It's not very pretty. Also, to get things straight, I AM a Cobra/Camaro SS lover, but my brother has the TVR Sagaris at 1390 and I have seen it, firsthand, failing to beat Camaro SS' on a regular basis. My brother also owns the Camaro SS but he thinks it's too hard to drive, so he uses the Renault DeZir instead.

And, to put it simply, a car which is FASTER and has BETTER NITRO DURATION is usually better UNLESS the other car has better drifting, handling, and acceleration. At this point, I'm not sure how well the Estoque can drift/handle and acceleration, but I know that it's slower than the Sagaris.

And, you are wrong. The Cobra is far superior to the Sagaris, and the Camaro SS is also far superior to the Sagaris. The Sagaris is still in the top 20 Multiplayer cars in the game, but I've made a pretty detailed list of the best Multiplayer cars in order, and even Feuerrm is backing me up on my ordering. I placed the Cobra as the 6th best car and the Camaro SS as the 7th, with the SLK SE as 1st, Vulcan as 2nd, Hommage as 3rd, MP4-25 as 4th, and the SIN R1 as 5th. The Sagaris is 16th and the BMW M2 is 15th on that list.

The Cobra is superior to the Sagaris because it gets faster at a lower rank. For a long time, the Cobra was the king of Multiplayer and everyone desperately wanted to obtain it. Then they released the Camaro SS, which was a roughly equal rival to the Cobra, but a bit of a glass cannon; a lot less reliable than the Cobra but capable of slightly more ambitious plays.

Then, they released the Sagaris, Hommage and BMW M2, and everyone was rushing to get the Hommage and BMW M2, with people calling the Hommage a "Camaro Killer" (which it isn't because they usually fight at different levels) and with people calling the BMW M2 a "Cobra Killer" (which it isn't, for obvious reasons). The SLK SE is truly a Cobra Killer, but it's really rare so the Cobra can still hold its ground quite effectively.

The Sagaris became the desired car because it was like a higher-ranked and faster Cobra. Everyone forgot about the Cobra and just farmed as hard as they could to get a 1390 Sagaris. But, the Sagaris has one disadvantage against the Cobra, and that's a HUGE disadvantage; it has to fight the Camaro SS in its optimal territory. Therefore, the main reason why the Cobra is better than the Sagaris is that it can fight Camaro SS' at lower ranks, where it's weaker.

You just try getting to Champion League in a Sagaris; it's very hard. I'm in Champion League with the Cobra, right now, and it wasn't that hard to get there. From what I've seen, your average rating is pretty low, so I have doubts about whether you've made it to Champion League with the Sagaris, before.

I rated the BMW M2 as better than the Sagaris because it's similar to the Cobra. It's a small downgrade to the Cobra, but still a big upgrade to the Sagaris. The only problem is that it's Elite, causing it to break down frequently.