Thread:Hadam259/@comment-25346930-20150325230311/@comment-1731233-20150708183628

You know, I actually thought about all the things you have said already. I'm not sugar coating anything at all. We need established rules, and not just one single mod who go around modifying or deleting people's comments. It'll cause even more problems because the people won't like being controlled - especially when there are NO rules to follow.

There is such a thing as prioritizing which problem to fix. To be honest, there are lots of things to be done. Guides/adding new templates/moving pages, and there are still very few people who does this. It's precisely because we ALL use this Wiki. In order to make this work, I've been talking with many people OUTSIDE of this Wiki on their opinion of the Wiki.

To deal with problems, you can't rush in and do it yourself. Are you going to ask Simmia/Hadam to also spend days, and days checking on comments? You have to look at the correlation between the current objective, and the responses from others. I don't have time to set up rules, and it's been quite a problem lately.

I don't like to do everything by myself, and I'm happy to get help. However, you need to actually stand up and do something. Before I became an admin, I didn't just go around commenting and telling the admins to change. There are many things I could do, and I didn't need to force others to do it for me. Instead of telling others to make a new template or something, I simply went ahead and made them. There was no such thing as "IF I'm an admin, I would do such and such" - I just did whatever I could do at the time.

Maybe you don't use other social platforms much, but this Wiki is linked to a much LARGER user base then you think. There are many people working behind the scenes to connect this Wiki to others, and you need to think about how to handle the situation at all fronts. I AM dealing with this problem, and I ask for the people's understanding. This isn't just US, it's more than just US.

Do you know what happens if you try to persist with this idea? It'll actually ruin the reputation because people won't like how we are not fixing the problem. Everyone has a different perspective, and they perceive the problems to be "different". You can either force everyone to change their perspective, or you can change your own perspective.

I acknowledge I sound very passive-aggressive with this post, but this is something that occurs frequently - the clash of perspectives between the INTERNAL group and the EXTERNAL group. This Wiki doesn't have as much of a good reputation as we like to think. Many of us have worked hard, and Hadam/Simmia were the ones who stuck with the Wiki from its earliest stages. However, if we try to feel entitled to our hard work, and think lots of people like this Wiki as a result, then it'll be a huge mistake. The problem is that people simply don't care - not many know how difficult it is to maintain a Wiki.

There are many times when people would favor other sources because of constant bad reviews of our Wiki from others. There is a need to address the problems in an orderly fashion. I can't even change your user group you know? I can't make anyone moderators as I'm not a bureaucrat, so the ones you need to convince is Hadam and Simmia. It is not something I can decide on my own, and I also need to present the rules to them as well. I don't ignore them, and suddenly decide that a certain group of people become mods.

Sigh, I don't know what else to say. If you believe that re-enabling the comment sections and promoting a number of people to become mods immediately as a solution, then you can convince Hadam and Simmia to do so. They also have the rights to enable it any time they would like to. As for the rules, you guys can set it up yourself.

P.S. I'm obviously very angry. The last time I was this angry in the Wiki was when a Wikia contributor gave a suggestion, but didn't bothered to actually help. Then he proceeded to insult the others for not doing as he wish, and saying this Wiki sucks. I would very much prefer that to not happen again. I've said from time to time, but there are lots of stuff you guys can do. There is no need to start to do something ONLY after you become a mod/admin.